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Interesting vid on Dire Wolf/attack dog comparison

Postby Dark-Hyena on Tue Oct 02, 2007 4:25 am

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Postby Cerberus on Tue Oct 02, 2007 5:51 pm

This could be considered as spam seeing as how there is no discussion. In the future, please try to include discussion with the link, otherwise it will be treated as spam. Thanks. (But very interesting video, by the way, thanks for sharing).
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Postby Dark-Hyena on Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:44 am

You want a discussion? Okay then.

I thought the bite testing was flawed, at least in regards to comparing dogs to dire wolves. For a start, how could they say that a Dutch Shepherd, which is lighter and has a weaker bite than a regular grey wolf, can be a good model of comparison with a universally more powerful dire wolf?
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Lol..

Postby wolflover4ever on Sat Oct 20, 2007 12:58 pm

That is so awesome! Now our friendly companions can save us if there is ever an intruder in the house...and trust me...if there was an intruder in my house...I have 3 dogs to back me up :D :D
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Re: Lol..

Postby Dark-Hyena on Tue Oct 23, 2007 8:03 am

wolflover4ever wrote:That is so awesome! Now our friendly companions can save us if there is ever an intruder in the house...and trust me...if there was an intruder in my house...I have 3 dogs to back me up :D :D


What attack style used in the vid would they use?
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I know whichs ones my 2 use.

Postby SHvar on Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:48 am

Not against people of course (husky, and husky shepard mix), but what they use against each other during play and against other dogs (playing).
The husky/shepard mix is a big boy (73 lbs at only 10 months old), he prefers the same leaping/brute force attack of the Dutch shepard.
My husky seems to be more versatile, hes more agile, very nimble, faster, and for now a bit heavier at 76 lbs . He uses all 4 techniques demonstrated, bite and shake, leap to take advantage of his weight, brute force, and the combination, depends on what hes trying to accomplish and against what.
The problem with trying to find out what technique a dog would use against an intruder is that unless the dog is trained to guard, or attack they will just bark and run, growl, hide, and panic, or be very friendly to the new friend they just met (most times what happens with thieves and dogs), this is why thieves steal so many dogs.
Also Ive found that if you walk into someones house who warns you about their big dog, you do so confidently, and act assertive if needed, the dog is very friendly and submissive (its natural to all dog breeds with humans).
Ever watch the TV show "to catch a thief" they demonstrated this on many episodes, even walking out with the dog a few times, just to show the owners that a dog will not protect your house unless it has been trained professionally to do so, in fact most of the dogs wanted to leave with the guy.
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Postby Cerberus on Mon Nov 05, 2007 8:54 am

But of course, that was a show in which the robbing of the house was planned...not done out of complete and utter desperation by a person who could very well be heavily under the influence of drugs, alcohol, or pure fear and adrenaline. ^_^ It may have been re-creating such a scene, but its just that: only a re-creation, and not the real thing.

In a more realistic situation, the aggressive barking and growling of a dog NOT professionally trained could very well be enough in itself to scare away potential thieves. Unless they're specifically targeting the dogs themselves, they usually won't know the tricks to dealing with the animal...especially if its someone under the influence or a desperate kid. A friend of mine thwarted a house-breaking not too long ago simply by speeding past the guy on his bike. The house-breaker heard the noise of the bike and freaked and ran. A thief desperate for booty and a clean getaway would probably steer clear of the house with the noisy animal and opt for the quiet house in which his presence would go unannounced. Thieves will do whatever it takes to get what they want, but they won't always deliberately put themselves in a situation where they could get caught. If given the chance, I'm sure they'd go for the easiest, cleanest break-and-escape.

Of course, I am not applying this to every single situation. I've heard all about the stupid thieves that manage to get themselves caught by making mistakes and messing up. ^_^ Just saying that the presence of a vocally aggressive doggy should lower the chances of that house being broken in to, no matter if the dog is trained or not. This wouldn't the case with a thief who would resemble those portrayed on the show--buuuuut, I think those are few and far between. Thats just my opinion anyways...I live in an area full of these sorts of people. Yay Savannah.

And now that I've dragged this post off-topic, I leave. xDDDD *poof*
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